Warning: The following (unfortunately) is a true story!
The First Angry Guy Steps Forward
Mid June 2006 - CR James sends an email to all of his customers & subscribers (basically it was an email saying 'go to 5sparkplugs.com because the report is ready for all those who are interested')
The next thing that happened was shocking!
One of CR James' subscribers sent a 'nasty' email in response to the email. So from that, a contest was created...
Then, CR decided to email his customers & subscribers explaining what the contest was...
Here is the email explaining the details of the contest (and below it is the "nasty email" that was referenced)
Hi
I want to clear something up because
it is very important to me...
I received an email from a guy who said
my "5 Spark Plugs" promotion is unethical and
he even stated that I could be reported
for such advertising practices...LOL
My jaw dropped!
To make a long story short.. this guy was pissed!
He was angry with me! He was even pissed at the 5 spark plugs!
(and these little bastards are cute as hell!)
My question to you is WHY? (I need your help)
(read this first because I have a serious question for you)
Here's what he had to say:
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Just though I'd let you know that your [5 Spark Plugs]
offering made me finally unsubscribe to your emails.
The last thing I want is someone attempting to
manipulate me into buying a product in the manner you
attempted.
Such attempts are highly unethical, and can
get you reported.
Now, I realize that the method you used was supposed
to be somewhat funny, and I will not be saying
anything to anyone. But people like you give NLP a bad
name, contributing to the lack of acceptance into the
psychological comunity, and thus prevent people from
getting legitimate help.
Oh yeah. If you thought your little "get angry" method
would help curb me from getting angry, you are crazy.
I don't like being manipulated, even in jest. I
sincerely hope you discontinue this practice.
Oh, and if I am able to thwart your advertizing
techniques, don't you think women can thwart your
techniques on them?
:: my reply:
so are you telling me that you don't think these guys are cute
and cuddly?
your friend
cr james
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Here's the deal, I'm going to give away a copy of
5 Spark Plugs to the person who helps me make sense of
this because it is MY BELIEF (and I welcome the idea
that I may be operating irrationally) that...
1. Turning women on (and doing anything in life) should be FUN
2. Learning how to turn women on (and anything in life) should be FUN
3. The process of Offering The Opportunity (i.e. advertising) should be FUN
It seems simple to me...
So to get a free copy of "5 Spark Plugs" (or a future voucher for those who ordered it already)..
1. Help me make sense (via seriousness or humor) of guys like this...
NOTE: Be sure to explain why guys like this are totally different than guys who take action and see the "Real Picture" For example GUYS who are "Super Action Takers" (Guys who intelligently realize that the advertising method is a simple way of saying "hello I've created something that i think will help you, if you are one of the guys who are interesting here it is?'
Take Care
-CR James
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Here are a few of the repsonse so far (unedited)
<< Note: Unfortunately I had to end the contest |
because of the massive volume of emails but I did
publish a few of them on this page >>
I have selected a couple of winners and I have email them... (i've read a lot of emails and it was fun because there is a lot of great advice - that's why I wanted to share some of them...
And for all those who sent in a response I will definately reward you with something valuable - and I already have an idea what it is - so trust me when I say everyone who sent an email was a winner...
cr
my intrest is perked there's always a nut on the wrong bolt; maby this guy is short a couple besides whose's being minuplated? its a matter of yes or no.
the fact that I' writing back is evidence that your advertising is effective
A.P.
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Master CR,
A plot to destroy Sexual Value, I sense. Cute you say. Yes. Cuddly you say. Yes. Guilty guy I say. Confused this guilty guy is! To embrace women, one must let go! Own nothing. He must search his feelings. Envy and jealousy there one must not have. Jealousy, is the path, to the dark side. Good, 5 Spark Plugs are. Rejoice, therefore for those who transform into the force.
I think this Mr Cute/Cuddly guy has lost his way. The 5 Spark Plugs add is designed to bring balance to the force not destroy it. Here you are being offered a blueprint on the female's psyche and learning to excite her in ways she isn't even fully aware she likes, and craves, and loves. From SSP alone I understood a man who doesn't know how to turn a woman on is walking on the path to the dark side. It is a path I cannot follow. This man has too many ideas wrapped up in his head. He is obviously a sith infiltrator sent to spy on the Jedi counsel....he is too dangerous to be left alive!!!
Peace,
Earl.
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| * Note: Any guy whose response revealed that he was "man enough" to admit that the 5 Spark Plugs were cute (LOL), was surprisingly rewarded with a FREE copy of: 5 Spark Plugs: The 5 Unusual Ways To Increase Your Sexual Value |
These are the same kind of guys who always have an excuse for
underperformance. He probably:
1. Doesn't like differentiation in companies (read Jack Welch's
books) that rewards high performance, manages the middle and
eliminates the underperformers - I'm sure he considers that
manipulative as well.
2. Always makes excuses for his own failures (in work, business, sex, anything)
3. Blames other people for his problems - victim mentality.
-j
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Sounds to me like this guy is so sold on NLP that he thinks it has magical powers, and if weren't for his above average intelligence he may have been tricked into buying your material. I like your stuff but never got the impression you were some mythical god that could make anyone do anything just by typing a few words. Lucky for him he was smart enough to see you for the god you are.
I already purchased the "5 Spark Plugs".
Take care,
GP
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CR --
Let's see... How to "make sense" of people like that? To start with: Guys like that won't just "go away quietly". They need to let you KNOW that you've offended their "higher standards", which of course are unquestionably there. They need to let it be known to anyone / everyone who will lsiten to them that THEY are experts, and YOU, however, are obviously lesser in skill and are exploiting people who just don't know any better.
They're self-proclaimed "watchdogs", and their bark is definitely worse than their supposed "bite".
Dan
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Hi CR,
I think this guy is a loser and probably couldn't get laid if he had a
nymphomaniac to try
to convince her that he has any sexual value, He is just a frustrated
asshole, I would not
give him another second of my time. Forget his stupid letter and carry
on, dealing with the
general public you have to expect a few freaks, but I think he is
harmless.
Hope this helps. Have a great day...
Best Regards,
Randy
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Yeah, not quite sure how to explain that, since I haven't actually read the five spark plugs. So I'm not really sure what he's complaining about. Kind of a catch 22.
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the answer is easy, HE IS GAY, and cant hang onto his boyfriends
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Angry Guy #2
Hi James!
I am sorry to begin this mail this way: I actually didn´t get impressed in a good way by your 5 spark plug "report" because it wasn´t a "report" it was "advertisement". And You never told anything worthwhile knowing except I learned your 5 spark plug -way of getting some attention. Anyway if it is a good copy than I think you should prove it by giving me a copy otherwise I might too unsubscribe (sorry).
Regards, Fredrik |
Compare it to someone that goes into Circuit City to purchase a
computer and they think they know more than the customer that is
trying to sell them the computer. Whether it is true or not, the
customer is already prepared to put down any advice (good or bad) from
the salesperson, and will often do the exact opposite even if it is
not in their best interest.
btw, went and got 5SP.pdf, content looks good, will have to read it in
detail later.
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Hello CR-
In life, there are some people who "get it" and there are those who, no matter what, never "get it."
No matter what the subject, they just never seem to see the "big picture" and are constantly either confused, unaware or argue for the sake of defending themselves or a concept they simply don't get. We can't let this kind of individual undermine our efforts to be productive. It's necessary to understand
that the problem is theirs--not ours. We know what we're doing, where we're going, and how we're going to get there. They don't know, and they probably never will. So the best thing is to not allow
them to waste our time, sap our energy or reduce our committments. Another thing: humor always carries it's own risk. To people like Jay Leno, nothing is sacred, and
everyone and everything is a target. Somehow, he is able to not only get away with it, he has literally
made millions with it. As for the rest of us, well, I guess we have to be a little more careful. Still, the only people who don't get criticized are those who never do anything. Like the turtle, no progress is ever made without sticking our necks out. Also like the turtle, it's imperative we have a thick and solid shell, because there will be times when our actions or statements will cause people to launch a barrage of criticism. We just need to understand this and not let it slow us down. Even if only to myself, I say to these people, "Bite me!" I hope this helps. Sincerely, Richard C.
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some people are just idiots who think that this is a stupid way to get women, and who will probably die a virgin
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This guy is probably the. type of guy that gets no pussy and don't wanna understand women.
I don't like people like that
Its like they r trapped in there own matrix world and don't wanna be unplugged.
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Hi CR,
Honestly, I cannot imagine you cannot imagine why this guy is pissed. HE'S NOT GETTING ANY! And here's the (maybe unpleasant) surprise. He's not getting any of what you promised : a FREE report! A free report is what you promised in your email, and really, what you give away is a free ad! I was a bit pissed as well, I must confess, and began to have question marks about your integrity... As for the rest, I enjoyed your Magnetism-book and reports. But this was a nono. So, CR, I am curious that you will keep your promise you made in the email I am now responding to... Marketing tip: maybe an apology to your list of fans, as most people don't go through the trouble of writing angry emails. It's always wise to restore the goodwill in your customers. You' ve probably been working hard to build that goodwill. And you WERE doing fine.... Later, Jan
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Hi CR,
this guy that sent you that e-mail about your 5 spark plug promotion is off the wall and should get a life(or wife) but he's way off base that was a pretty cool way to get a point across keep up the good puns um work thanks D.Cross.
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HI CR,
I got your e-mail in which you try to make sense of this gentelman and I HAVE the answer you are seeking.
First, I would like to clarify I am NOT doing this for your offered gift, but rather doing this to really help you work out this conundrum (you are still welcome to gift me if you wish).
Here goes:
1) You must understand the BASIC SOURCE of the response of this perosn lies in HIS personality, not YOUR program or presentation.
2) This person had just revealed to you something about himself: that he had some unethical dealings in his past toward others, and your presentation reactively (not analytically) caused him a flashback of his unethical dealings, and he began to feel guilty about himself.
3) His attack on you in merely his "means" of trying to to make himself feel better about HIMSELF. Since you remind him of his own unethical side, he tries to get away form this side by attacking YOU. That's really all.
4) Since you pride yourself (and rightfully so) in sharing some precious information with readers, I would like to share a datum with you that is pure Platinum.
Some people tend to be harshly critical of others, for absolutely no apparent rational reason. They get bitter, even hostile and try to put down positive effots by others. Whenever you see a person who is BITTER, critical with hostility, KNOW he is not attacking you, but tries to make himself feel good about bad things that he did (to you or other people).
Ever had the experience of a friend or somneone you knew turned hostile againt you? There was something bad they did which they felt bad about. Now they had to say you were "worthless" so they could feel better about what they did. By lessesing the value of the target, that makes their bad actions not so bad. Now they feel "they can live better with themselves".
Hope this helps,
E
Oh, I forgot: you can find great examples in marriage in relatioships. If one side cheats, they will shortly afterwards try to find faults in the other. Why? Because in their attempt to lessen the value of the other, their bad action might lose some of its weight, and give them some relief (so they believe).
This mechanism, hoewever, is not workable. Whenever you try to make nothing of others, you end up making nothing of yourself. And this is what this peorsn just did to himself by attacking you.
Take care,
Eric
You can sum it up by saying that the hypercritical person, who criticizes you (BITTERLY as opposed to pure analytical criticism) is actually disclosing there is something unethical about THEM or their PAST.
Put this to the test and you will see this is true EVERY SINGLE TIME. Go have some fun with this. This is lifechanging information.
Eric
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So someone got offended at the 5 spark plugs ad?!
Oh geez. Change the channel, don't buy.
Why would a guy choose to staple an offense to his forehead and go on a crusade against you?
Answer: no life, insecure, too much time on his hands, (not enough women?!). It had to be a good ad because it pushed his buttons.
But his insecurities got in the way and he seen defeat on the horizon so he chose to oppose and take it personally. I suppose he sues the fast food restaurants when his burger don't come out like the picture too. So maybe it wasn't your best work, big deal.
No need to take it personally. Most of what you write is pretty darn good, albeit long winded! If you have the occasional brain fart or less than perfect style of ads...that's to be expected from a guy with an obviously high energy level and so much excitement from so much success with women. I know that's true because I've tried your techniques and used them myself with almost immediate success.
OF COURSE I had to think for myself and tweak your info to my own specific situation and woman! That's to be expected. You don't sell pre packaged sexual success, you sell seeds of inspiration, that seeds our inspiration to make our own gardens grow. (If we can rise to the reality mentally and tweak our perspective on things.).
Not hard to do if you're able to set the ego aside and be honest with oneself. So your excitement and enthusiasm spilled over into your ad. Of course it was leading. That's how sales are made and anyone who don't know that is in need of tuning up his mental motor!
It's supposed to be fun to better oneself and better their love life indeed. All answers do not come at once or overnight. A little of what you write is a little dumbish (no offense) but some of it is pure gold and even if only one gold nugget is found in an article, and the rest is crap, then its worth it.
One gold nugget a day will over time make a man rich. Besides, what the hell are you supposed to say or expected to say in the ad stuff ? Have a legal disclaimer that it may offend your poor little ego? Hah! Your ad was ok but can't really expect it to wow absolutely everyone. Sounds like the guy has his eye on the ad and not the bottom line / result. "Oh my, I may not be perfect and need help and this guy has the nerve to tell me to my face that I need a tune up".
Self defeatist stuff. If he has that much problem with a little ol enthusiastic ad, how much more problem with women? I kind of wanted to read it to see if there was any nuggets in there, but I'm on a pretty tight budget so didn't order it. I dunno if any of this helps to inspire you to say what you need to say to the guy to get him less focused on you and more focused on women, but hey if it does, great, send me another gold nugget for free! (The spark plug report). ;>)
Changing my attitude sure provided instant results for me. I'm happy, she's happy. Just being happy sends out great vibes. I got hit on 4 times in 2 days by local women. I TOLD the Wife about it!
Instant SV points, and now I can't even mention Starbucks without her getting worried and becoming more attentive (The Starbucks chick almost wouldn't let me go and tried 3 times herself).
Kind of subtle at first, and then more aggressive after a polite turndown. Then she came out from behind the counter and tried again, only to follow me out the door onto the lot when I declined the invite. She was excited and I was giving her the slough off! Whoa.
Good stuff!
Regards,
Edward (Jones)!
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Sir, i think the guy who sent u an email in not really interested or propably a narrow minded.a very insecure person who dont want to open his mind into reality.
Ok,lets face the truth what u are doing is a simple advertisement.So what he do care?atleast u r helping people by sharing ur knowledge.for me its a big help,actually.i respect the guy's opinion....but he's SUCKS!
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CR,
I doubt that you'll actually read this as I suspect that you have
automatically sent it to everyone that has recently viewed your web site and
has not ordered your new product. But let's assume that you really will
read it.
If this guy (again assuming that there really is a guy) already subscribed
to your web site then he should already be familiar with your marketing
acumen, which is considerable. Of course, you're trying to manipulate him
into buying your product just as you are trying to manipulate me to do so
with this message. It's America; deal with it! There is nothing unethical
about trying to sell your wares, and in trying to make them attractive, and
in trying to make people feel that they are smart enough to want to use your
product. If I wanted to I could get mad at you implicitly identifying me as
a "Super Results Getter" and implying that I should prove this by buying
your product, but -- what the hell -- it's marketing.
I didn't take offense at your method or at this message (whose reply may or
may not actually get read). Anyway by answering this email I figure I have
the chance of getting something for free. What the heck.
John
P.S. I'm not sure if I'm capable of describing spark plugs (no matter their
colors or expressions) as being cuddly but they are damn cute.
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1) He thought he could manipulate you with an anger technique.
2) He has and is still failing with women because of a NLP technique his mother programed him with. AKA buy her flowers, open the car door for her,, buy her dinner, etc. All minupliation techniques women see as drop your panties. The ole I did this for you now you do this for me psych.
3) He doesn't understand that the techniques he used on mom don't work on all women. Whine, cry, beg, and do special things to make mom cave in. 4)
He's a loser.
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Whoa CR...
That guy isn't worth a dime.
He's the type that wants everything for half the sale price at a 50% off sale! He obviously doesn't know the true value of the information he is getting from you! Believe me, it's priceless because your knowledge got me diving back into the sweetness that is below in the pics I am sending you!
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James,
I think you are taking this guy too seriously.
If he is supposed to be a
"mental giant" he would have understood your motives. I have read all of the
info I paid for and had decent results.
I don't have a lot of money so
dating is not so easy right now BUT I am a door man at a sober club and have practiced your principles (in an honest way - don't ask) and have had
"decent" results. Now because of other projects in my life I have toned down
because I need time to pursue these other projects.
So, let it go, he will do nothing - just like always.
"The Bronx"
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I think his grievance my not lie in the cartoony spark plugs used to
advertise the 5 Spark Plug method, but in the way it was presented prior to
their introduction. He may have been incensed at what appeared to be another
awesome peice of free advise you normally dispense to those on the list, but
turned out to be just an advertisement for a peice you were coming out with
later that was something that people had to pay for.
While the idea of the
braingate itself is interesting, it did at first just read like a long
rambling "cock tease" if you will. Personally I think its awesome that you
send out free stuff at all and more power to you for it. Some of the stuff
you've sent me has had more relevance for me than stuff I've paid people to
send me. Keep up the good work regardless of what this guy thinks.
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Well to tell u the truth i dont see the reason why that person is getting on like that he probably has a personal problem or a bad experience and what u said probably trigured something in him but there is nothing wrong with your methods because you either take it or leave it its that simple and u probably might have some kind of super power for him to say your manipulating him
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Gotta love guys like that... But not in the bi sense!
Alright alright, so you want help getting into this guys head? I got the deal if your excuse my tarribale spelling!
First of all, you should hope he reports you, you will make money from the juge cus your hallarioise method will hook even him! lol And if you want profe that even Mr. Angry Head agrees with me its right in his own words (2end paragraph) "was suposed to be somewhat funny"!
Even he knew it was funny. But what got to him, you might be wondering? Well, parronioa! He thinks you were tricking him, indacated in this line "If you thought your little "get angry" method would help curb me from getting angry, you are crazy." WHOS THE CRAZY ONE?! No one said that you were trying to curb him. haha that guy is silly... I hope you enjoyed!!
Peace,
Poz.
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Can't really say why this guy was so pissed... maybe he didn't like the idea of getting "plugged"?
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It appears pretty simple to me. Some people consider the entire genre of what you are focusing on to be immoral or in some kind of poor taste. Lowbrow; trickery, etc.
He may have gotten upset about having to choose being in the group of successful men and - the others who consider you evil - {who he might consider being rated as losers}categories you use. Just a thought.
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Hey there, I think I know the guy's problem. It all boils down to fear. It's natural for a guy to be "nice" to a woman to get what they want out of them. The chivalry that we were taught as young men has not only been a blessing, but a curse as well. Women do like a guy who is a gentleman, but that is where it stops. Once he is too nice, giving up his power, and letting the woman take the lead, he becomes unattractive.
Many guys out there are afraid to fail in the first place, and it just seems logical that the nicer or "wussier" the guy is, the woman will like him. While women inherently like to be taken care of (provided for) they want a take charge man-even though they may seem very independent.
Men who take that notion too far are just afraid to try something new and innovative, because the rejections they suffered by doing the things most familiar to them and being too nice are painful enough.
The thought of failing at something totally new is just mind boggling. As for your advertising practices, they are not unethical. People are smart enough to sort out what it is you are trying to sell and how it may benefit them. I just think this guy too afraid to do anything. Thanks for your time,
GR Jr.
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This guy was just having a bad day. The truth be known he probably never even given your technique a try because the proof is in the pudding. This guy ain't gettin' no puddin' Now when will I be getting my free copy (hee!)
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Hi,
the "angry guy" that unsubscribed just doesn't have a sense of
humor... some people are like that... they're "humor impaired".
nothing wrong with the promotion... kinda cute... very
non-offensive.
ttyl
L.F.Matthews
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C.R. James , being in sales a number of years , I have learned that people
sometimes are walking thru life with certain perceptions that may or may not
be correct and inevidably forms a pattern in their self action . I will
attempt to explain from my point of view . I don't mean this in a bad sense
(and I will try to assume a non-biased view ) From what I have read in the
newsletter and from what I know about People and especially myself, is that
we all tend at some time or another take things said or done " personally "
based sometimes on past experiences .
For Instance, I had a bad experience a
number of years ago with a business organization I was involved with, where
( to make a long story short ) I was told That I had all my "associates"
support and help in relation to the "business" and claims to be closer than
family were even made .
But later I Came to the abrupt realization that
there was no family and the only value I was to them was in relation to
purchasing more and more material for "business " purposes - I found their
language in regards to "guilt trips" and failing to be a " team player "
insulting - however I never let them know Right away - so I decided to test
their so-called integrity by ceasing to contribute to see if their ( at the
very least ) friendship stood up . Well the Result is self explanitory -- so
I say all this for what purpose ? Because everytime after this incident
occured any similar words or actions that crossed my path , even if it had
the smell or wiff of something similar to my past experiences > sounded all
the alarms in my head <
Understand ? I think I do I can somewhat relate to our friend in the letter
-- I am sure you can understand being a rather bright individule ( and I do
NOT mean this in a condescending manner ) You see sir, he's been duped -
hurt ( whatever u may call it ) in the past by other individules or perhaps
felt to be a guinee-pig by other shotty business practices nad even as a
consumer. And one thing I KNOW is that people DO NOT want to FEEL or BE
"USED" even though I am sure that's not what your intentions were .
I can see certain areas where (if you would permit me to contribute some
advice?) I can demonstrate how one can feel inferior or " manipulated ".
>if for instance a person doesn't agree with your views or approach in
certain areas such as the "sparkplug" demonstration or views it as maybe a
"cheap"
ploy -and because they may have held of your "previous valuable" advice in
high esteem and even yourself as their mentor, they may find themselves in a
position where they may feel inferior or insulted because they just cant
bring themselves to break free from an opinion and mentality . He may have
seen the example in "cure#2" as a ploy to "get" his money ( yeah the
dialogue $37 dollar part ) he may have even felt spoken down to ( as a child
).thats just an example. But........
The other possibilty (which I hold more likely) is that the fella saw his
reflection in the "cure #2" and and just plain got scared and ran away - got
insulted at the fact that you read his cards , so he "folded" and left the
table.
In the end if you did this with sober, clear non-manipulating intentions you
havnt anything to " want to understand " in regards to this fellas letter -
but then again I understand if your like me - I constantly want to improve
and sometimes I miss things - i want to correct any mistakes I MAY make.
Word of request .......you may consider having a recorded conversation with
top clients in conjuction with the related studies available to be heard(
like a dialogue phone converstation -played on realplayer/or quickplay). I
think this would be of great value & interest to many of us .
Good-day sir and thankyou
Guy F.
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The difference is easy.
A deficient sense of humor and deficient sense of zest for life. If anything in lifeshould be fun and a win-win situation it's sex.
Bringing excitement to a woman with great sex (from the first moments of building tension to orgasm and beyond) is no less ethical than making her smile with a bouquet of flowers. It's all about bringing joy to others.
It feels good to feel good and bring that to others, I think the writer hasn't done enough of either.
J. Lundholm
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CR-
This guy is the real "lonely guilty guy," from your book.
Funny thing is we all that guy was a joke. Your book, with free extras, plus daily emails has been enjoyed from the majority of your readers. Thank you again!!
Truth is the 5plugs bit was brilliant NLP.
In only one advertisement you packed multiple hidden lessons for attracting women only we were the ones on the curious end. Your knowledge of creating value has oozed onto your e-mails. Mr. Guilty was angry because your offer was to tempting and it sounds like his life was already to frustrating. Mr.G is a miser scared to invest his money (frustrated guilty guy caresses cute little bastard plug #6). I have spent way over my budget in the last year on self improvement concerning relationships (mostly repetitive info from other sources) and had decided it was time to practice more in real life and stop spending so much time reading. Then I read your 5plugs e-mail. Your advertisement was so enticing I actually read it five different times last night trying to talk myself out of buying it! Wow, that was your best teaser ever. Even though I didn't want to spend money there was a nagging urge to keep flirting with the idea of doing it anyway! I was angry too but only because I thought that it might be a huge mistake not to buy! Now you've got me still trying to get it!?!
If I could have 1/10th the selling power with women that you've got on your customers I would be the one with a e-book on dating.LOL!!!!! You truly have mastered your skills.
Oh, and to the fellow readers, the women who "thwart," having fun are not who you want to be with anyway! Mr.G was willing to learn how to use your skills on women but when used on him, "that's unethical?" This guy should be reported for being a self righteous numb-skull.
CR that "guilty guy," hating you're work was more than enough proof that you did something great!!!
Keep up the good work and thanks again!
Your friend- J.W.
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I can not answer for another, I speak from the heart..If something is not for Me,I say so or pay no attention to the factors that might be upsetting..
In today's society it is to easy to tear (also known as sarcasm,I believe in Greek it means to rip the flesh) down people,and push all the wrong buttons.You know what I mean..Why not look at the good in everything,granted this is very hard.If it was not, it would not be rewarding at all.. We must try and find or see the good within,this means everyone.And hate the Evil within..
That way We can build others up in Love...
God Bless You,You do have a lot to contribute to others no matter what may be said or seen by another...
I Pray this helps
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Send me the free copy! (use pseudynom if you want to use this reply)
RESPONSE Well, my answer to that person is that everything could be construed to be manipulative. Advertising, the government, other salespeople and even your girlfriend and boyfriend/husband wife etc. Put a positive spin on it and we call it "influence". Negative spin is "manipulative". But there is nothing wrong with considering the information.
And you have a choice (in this case to remove yourself from the mailing list). Fine. You always have a choice. And the more knowledge and awareness you have, the more choice you have. Every business advertises. Advertising method is part of life: the simple way of saying "hello I've created something that i think will help you, if you are one of the guys who are interes ted, h ere it is?' Is any big company's advertising more 'ethical' than that of mine?
Advertising is informative and it can also be entertaining. I welcome it. I have a choice. I know something that I didn't know before and after evaluating the offer, if I am a person of action and the offer meets my need, I pay to get what is promised.
The only way that the offer would be unethical is if the product or service does not live up to the claim after giving it a solid try. And you couldn't have done that yet.
So over to you.
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hi,
I dont know about him, but i think he is gay or
something, i would love to have this product. If he
doesnt want it then he is totally and completely happy
with the woman he has. I think it would be great to
have something like this.
your friend
ed
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Hello, I got your Brain Gate report and was getting really excited too – it looked to be really interesting.
Then I saw it wasn't a free report and had an ”awwww…., man!” moment. So I could understand why he would have been a little disappointed (at least I always like the little free reports you send out), but his pissy-ness is a whole other issue.
This is how I see it; I think l that when anyone gets angry and lashes out (i.e. threatens you), they are hiding some insecurity. That's not to say that a person can't be righteously angry at some injustice, but when that anger comes disproportionate to the event that triggered it, that's the flag. Especially if it's childish (I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG! I'M TELLING! :P:P:P). It seems that this guy's insecurity is that he feels inferior to others. Maybe he was always treated second class, maybe his boss at work is an authoritarian dickhead who pushes him around and he just takes it (for whatever reason), or maybe he just won't take control of his life. In any event, in order to protect himself his mind created a little script.
That script goes something like, “The reason everyone treats you like shit is ‘cause you're so much better than all of them, all they're all to dumb to see that, so fuck ‘em, you don't need anyone, they're all to stupid to reach you're level of awesomeness anyways. It's not your fault, it's their fault.” (That's him talking to himself, btw)
While in reality he feels he has no control in his life and needs to create these lies so he doesn't have to deal with the reality of the situation, ‘cause if he did have to deal with the reality of the situation then he'd have to admit that he's not in control and in a pathetic downward spiral.
Better to just not do anything, put no effort in to improving his life, not face the truth, think he's better than everyone, and continue on like he always has – stagnant and unchanging. So someone comes along and offers him something to improve his life. Brain Gate. Automatically his defenses go up, “What the hell is this?! I'm already better than everyone else, why do I need this? This guy think he's better than me? Has something that can help me? HA!” I think it's kinda easy to notice his thought process here.
He tries to knock you down a few times, once by calling you “unethical,” once by saying you're damaging the good name of NLP, once by calling you crazy, and once by suggesting he outwitted your techniques, which he also suggests women would see through as well. All of this he can use to justify the idea that you are inferior to him. That is why he is so insulted that you'd try to “manipulate” him.
Obviously you couldn't against his superior intellect. What were you thinking, man?! I guess what I can't figure out entirely is this – he must have ordered something from you before to get on your mailing list. The only thing I can think is that he buys books similar to these to gain a sense of power. Pick up a few tricks and go out to the bar and mesmerize women with them, ‘cause now he has the secret weapon and he's in control. I guess he didn't like Brain Gate so much because it suggested that he would change, and be better off, and that's not what he's looking for. It's not a gimmick or technique, but a change in his attitude.
Can't have that, he's already the best he can be…. And I guess that is the difference between him and the “Super Results Getters.” Instead of thinking that they are perfect, complete, and infallible they realize that there are areas in life and in themselves that they could improve and seek the knowledge and skills to do that, and that once they do improve they're not done – they could always improve more, and that their potential is unlimited. And if someone happens to walk up to them one day and says,
“You know what, I got this book that will change your life! It will teach you so much. Literally it will shatter your view of the world, you will be so much better for having it,” they don't run away screaming bloody murder (Crazy Unethical Manipulator! Vie on you Satan!), they at the very least say, “Tell me a little bit about all this then….”
So with that I'd like to say thank you for offering information and skills that I can use to improve my life with. I'd also like to say thank you for your personal responses and advice to questions about your books. I never formally thanked you for that, I don't know if you remember (it was back in October of last year), but I just wanted to say that now. Just as a little update too, after reading the e-mail you sent back, something in my mind just kinda “tweaked” I guess, and I started to move on.
We still ended up going on the cruise together, but it was just a couple of days after we got back that we signed the divorce papers and I bought another house and moved out. Things are going really good now, so again I thank you for your advice.
And maybe a little something you can use in Super Results Getters Volume 2 – I'm generally not one to “kiss and tell,” but if this gets someone else to read your books and start improving their lives, I'll lend you these. On that cruise in December I met a young woman in Puerto Rico who happened to be on the same ship I was. I introduced myself to her and we talked and had a really good, relaxed conversation on the bus ride back to the ship before it left port.
We traded room numbers and went our separate ways that night, but ended up running into each other the next day, went to forward deck overlooking the ocean and talked again for a while before heading back inside to our rooms we ended up making out in the hallway for a few minutes. We said goodnight and spent the rest of the week doing that, hanging out and making out whenever we got the chance to. The second-to-the-last night she called me down to her room.
After a couple minutes of idle chit-chat she gets this glassy look in her eyes and damn near tackles me, no foreplay, and we're having wild sex a few minutes later. Just amazing…. And now, a couple of months ago, I had this girl over and we're watching movies and joking around and she just presses herself into me and starts kissing me.
We finally made it upstairs to the bedroom after rolling around on the living room floor for a while. It's unreal, I actually heard these come out of her mouth,
“Oh my god, I'm so wet,” “Get in here, I need you in me NOW!” and “I've never been this wet before.” I honestly thought those statements were reserved for porn and fantasy, never to be heard in real life. I really can't say it enough – thank you! Your books and personal advice really do work and have changed my life.
Your friend, BL
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I believe you have spent a great deal of time analyzing woman and learning
to manipulate them in order to get closer to them. You model does work and
woman to respond to your methods. I know my wife was leaving me and 6 weeks
later I was giving her orgasms.
However she soon wised up to some of the
methods and I find myself looking to improve my methods. It all takes a
great deal of work.
This guy does not like the fact that you tried to lead him to buy your
product.
My preference would have been for you to publish a second EBook as a second
edition or something. You already have the credibility because your
methods are proven to some of your loyal followers so maybe this guy felt
that you compromised your trust to make another sale.
It could be that your marketing method has not got the response you wanted
and know you are attempting to get feedback from your client base.
Regardless of your motive I believe your model works and you need to focus
on clarity of your methods not marketing. But again this is your choice if
your going to focus on marketing or delivering a great product and service.
My opinion is that you need to stop blowing your own trumpet as This does
put a large % of potential clients off and instead use case studies or
examples of success rather than your own experience. This should help you
retain some of your male tasrget market.
You have helped save my marriage but your resent marketing did NOT prompt me to buy a second installment. Maybe the cute little spark plugs do not work and maybe your marketing method made some of your client base feel like
targets.
Or maybe you were offering something for a price and know giving it away in
ordwer to get the feedback which is what you were looking ofr in the first
place.
Keep up the good work!
Regards,
Michael
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Dude,
This guy is someone who had a bad day before sent you the email. There is no rational reason that he should have been mad at you... now for the irrational reasons.
1. The guy has been exposed to NLP before so he thinks he's an expert.
2. This guys sounds like a natural born critic and criticalness is a turn off to women.
3. He's probably pissed that he didn't come up w/the idea first.
In short, the guy has insecurity issues. He signs up to your newletter, reads your messages, opts out of your newsletter because he's offended that your use of NLP almost got him to buy info that he thinks he should have known already.
OH YEAH! And who gives a shotglass of spit about acceptance from the psychological society?!
Rock on dude.
Anthony
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james i saw nothing illegal or manipulative. i personally bought the spark
plugs. keep up the good work.
stan |
Real Super Result Getters, like yourself understand that this stuff is fun and is meant to be played with, NOT MANIPULATING... as for that guy...
Gotta love guys like that... But not in the bi sense!
Alright alright, so you want help getting into this guys head? I got the deal if your excuse my tarribale spelling! First of all, you should hope he reports you, you will make money from the juge cus your hallarioise method will hook even him! lol And if you want profe that even Mr. Angry Head agrees with me its right in his own words (2end paragraph) "was suposed to be somewhat funny"! Even he knew it was funny. But what got to him, you might be wondering? Well, parronioa! He thinks you were tricking him, indacated in this line "If you thought your little "get angry" method would help curb me from getting angry, you are crazy." WHOS THE CRAZY ONE?! No one said that you were trying to curb him. haha that guy is silly... I hope you enjoyed!!
Peace,
Poz. |
did you ever think this guy might not be a guy but actually a woman or even a lesbian who would not like being manipulated by guys
John
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Alright its more than clear to see, that his personality type is logical,
and he is looking at the situation as you trying to trick him into buying
your material.He sees it as unethical, for reasons beyond me, like I said,
logical type personaltiy.
The way these people view things, is in reason, (forgive me redundance),
logic, facts and all that jazz.people like him are incapable of using your
material, in a fun easy gonig manner to get laid, for lack of a better
word.He sounds pretty old school to me, and believe women should be courted
in a old fashion manner, taken to dinner, take things slow, open the door
for her, and give her her space, and buy her lots and lots of gifts to make
her feel happy.
But then again I'm just putting in my 2 cents.Any GUY who uses the
words,"thwart,community and REPORT", in those references, are without a
doubt, been riding on the pancy train from nurture.No guy, "reports",
anything another Guy, thats breaking guy code, and straight up
snitching.Using the word Thwart...thats straight up, comic book, super
villian verse super hero, talk right there, that should have been a red
light for you to discontinue reading the e-mail right there lol.And a alas,
Community...psychological community at that.these men, dont' take risks,
will always eye the hot girl, but NEVER think of themself with them,these
guys use phrases like "she's out of your league", "those kind of girls get
any man they want", and last but not least "a guy like me would have nothing
to offer". I ALMOST feel sorry for these kind of guys, but then again they
don't know any better,society has programmed them to think this way from
birth
but Guys like you and I ,know just how to scoop'em.Wowo I just realized how
caught up I was in this e-mail, ihope this might have REMOTELY shed some
light, on the "anger" he was feeling.
Once again, material is great,keep scooping them girls and doing us guys
justice by sharing the knowledge...and making a buck off of it of course
;)...because you do have Gold on your hands my friend, you DO have gold |
I Hope I still Qualify to getting a Free Report because I only know the
Basics..If somebody Beat me..Great..but we all got our own Therories! So,
you help me..i'll help you..haha! :P
Heres a Joke:
I think the C.I.A. Might go to your home..Because theirs a Lady Killer in
the House! hahaha
Im just a Average looking guy..thats 6'1 with a big head.
First off, that guy is a weiner he's a lame and he has no game.
You guys taught me to be more open minded and Out going so here I go. Two
minds are always better than one! Your a Smart Individual. Oviously, this
guy doesn't get results and probally misinterpreted the method that you guys
are trying to implement. I believe that everything you guys give into detail
is True without a dobut. Why you ask? Because these techniques are Creative,
Unpredictable, Spontaneous, Interesting, and so on which are things that
captivates the attraction of women. What this guy doesn't know what to do.
This guy basically has issues in his life and he's oviously really jealous.
I would like to see how this guy looks like. His personality and all of that
and judge him from there or what kind of back round would make him say that.
I believe also that the only person that can pimp you is your pimp ass self.
ya dig? Since, ima Understandable guy..let me try to get where this guy is
comming from..He thinks that you guys will just give a little bit of Details
trying to run game on the clients and probally think that the books you guys
sell are a complete fluke because he probally read reviews from other
bulletins and got everything mixed up and doesn't know whats what. This guy
has to come to a Logical point of view and Do his Homework and Test it and
know whats what before he tries to Criticize. Honestly. I think you guys are
the Truth because I did my research and it's Test Proven with Positive
Results! I must thank you guys. I don't know where i'd actually be without
the Knowledge I've gained. so, im just showing gratitude.
And those little Spark plugs are cute I must admit. Im not gay but you get the picture LoL!
I like your response though I bet he got so mad he wigged out on his computer.
bwahahaha! you know he did..Well, Everybody has their own Beliefs for
example. Take religion, we all believe in different things and theories
thats why we learn to agree to accept each other and their own BELIEFS and
respect and understand it. It's like saying Science vs Religion. i think i
went too off track here but bare with me.. lols.. well it's One life no
Regrets with me so I like to live life to it's fullest Extent and live my
dreams and even sell them! haha! I get the Real Picture.
1. I Love Women and Have Respect for them and I just Love to Push their
Right Buttons on becuase I think they deserve it since boring guys can't
Spark that Interest.
2. Advertising is just Marketing yourself you wont always have positive feed
back.
Let me know what you think on my output! I would really appreciate it. ~
Richard
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The answer is very simple and has three parts:
1. He has no idea of what real fun is.
2. He isn't getting laid!
3. He hasn't brought and read your product.
I get that I am now meant to buy your product because of all the great
things it has done for the people in the results getters testimonials and
because I don't want to appear to be a jerk like the guy in the e-mail for
missing out but I have three reasons for not buying:
1. I have no idea of what real fun is since losing my sense of humour after
being conditioned badly by clumsy NLP based advertising.
2. I'm not getting laid because women are conditioned to sexually detest fat
and ugly men by advertising, the media and consequently peer pressure!
3. I haven't brought and read your product because I'm still not convinced
that my $37 is going to be well spent. If it is as good as you say, why are
you not charging $500 or $1000? Why is there no money back guarantee?
I do not want you to think about FEELING SORRY FOR ME.
This is the truth, in the North of England you try and use any technique and
the women smell the BS. I have brought books and e-books on seduction
techniques and I can see how it can work in theory. Yet despite having done
some NLP and NAC I can't quite get it to work.
If your products really worked and your customers were having such great
success then every man on the planet would know about it. You could not keep it quiet if you tried. This sounds a lot like pheromones or bigger penis
pills. In fact the more I think about it the more I can relate to the guy
who wrote complaining; in fact he has a point! The way you have set this up feels like a con!
If you won't GIVE ME the "5 Spark Plugs" and prove to me your system works then how will I ever know whether I can trust you?
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Hello my friend ! First apologise me because my english is not that good...I'm writing to you for the first time since I'm your customer. I decided to do that because that guy that wrote you really pissed me off :) He obviously just can't get it that was just his modest opinion, nobody pushed him to buy that great Holy gral of mankind :) .
It looks like it is not for everyone, just for a real men, who know and are willing to accept what is all about when talking about women. I was so excited when reading your book and in many cases I find myself in it. It helped me to see those things and be aware of them, it makes life much more easier. And what's the most women love it, so why talk about unethical manipulation?!
That I just don't get it, finally that is not mine or even your problem I think so why bother anyway. If a guy can't or better said is not cappable of making fun of it then he shouldn't. It is just that simple, don't you think?! Looks like his ego hurts alot but he should be told to let us Super Result Getters ALONE ! We are having fun listing and learning from your e-publications. Or maybe he is sorry for spending THAT MUCH money :) Maybe we should offer him a penny from each of us to make him satisfied :) I think it would be good idea :) No seriously main difference between us and him is the great power within us and having feeling of reality, men he should understand that life ain't a picnic nor a hollywood movie. But I think no one of us has a problem let this man live his life in his own way and we do just the same with no regrets, only we will never met on this way again. I won't cry and all guys 'in the club' also. And finally it's a FREE country...make peace and love not war. He called you crazy :) maybe you are as I am but we are still doing very good right?!
I'm honest with you
- if I am over-reacting let me know... - NO WAY James
- if you can't understand my burning curosity and think I should let it go, I'll respect your opinion... - I can understand because I also feel that way and you have my full support. If you should let it go? Do you really need an answer? That was a JOKE right? Keep it that way my friend because TOGETHER WE CAN REACH THE SKY AND THE OTHERS JUST DON'T HAVE TO FLY!!! That could be our slogan or TM :)
- whatever it is I'm ready to learn - and we are ready to learn from you!
As you said - Results are the only thing that matters.
Kick asses and take names my friend,
kindest regards Zoran |
People like that are afraiid of everything, including their own
shadow....that is why they are looking ifor help from you and other
sources......but they have let their fear dominate their and rule thier
lives and so they see anything that is put before them as as BS....because
they do not have the self confidence to GIVE YOUR TECHNIQUES A
CHANCE.........
Pity really,
Regards,
Steve |
This guy has lost the plot ! He should actually seriously read your
material.
A born loser with sour grapes.
Your 3 "beliefs" are spot on and your continued success is proof enough that
what you are doing is working for plenty of guys.
Keep up the good work.
B R Newby |
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Warmly,
CR James
Sexual Relationship Strategist
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